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annoying imbalance of the solo challenge

kdtipakdtipa Posts: 8Registered User, Facebook Connect User Loose Cannon

I feel like the solo challenge cheats. I get that randomness can probably account for what I'm seeing, but it seems like the solo challenge cheats. It feels like each computer player after the easy ones will crush me once (where the computer gets the perfect letters to play huge scoring words, and I get 6 of the letter "I" and 1 "Y"), and then be easy to defeat the next time around. Like the game is trying to get me to use up my power-ups and coins to play the solo challenge.

That's not fun.

I just get angry. It makes me want to delete the game. Shouldn't the additional content make a person like the game more? Playing against the computer should be a fun diversion. It shouldn't make me feel angry. I know it's just a game, and I shouldn't be angry anyway. But in a few free minutes I have during the work day, I'd like to pop open a game and come away from it feeling happy instead of frustrated. And I think a fair portion of the frustration comes from the feeling that the game cheats.

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  • WordmongerWordmonger Posts: 5Registered User, Facebook Connect User Loose Cannon

    I don’t know about “cheating”, but it’s definitely all over the place. I had an “easy” game where my opponent averaged 35 points per word. Still, it’s my favorite part of the game.

  • kdtipakdtipa Posts: 8Registered User, Facebook Connect User Loose Cannon

    I like the concept of solo play. But when a game against the computer gives me crappy letters while the computer is playing the word Quizzes with a 10 pointer on a TL spot, and of course crossing a TW spot... and I have all vowels and 1 point consonants... it feels like it isn't balanced right.

  • BethdBethd Posts: 1Registered User, Facebook Connect User Not a Title, but a Star
    My husband and I have been playing for years and we just had this discussion last night. It's becoming harder and harder to win a solo challenge. For example I was just playing a "medium" player, which I would have crushed just a few weeks ago. So this game, which has become typical, I had a handful of As. And the bot of course had great letters.

    Of course Zengas motive is obvious ... getting you to use extra coins for swaps and trades so you have to start spending money (even though we have the paid so already). They might start losing players over this!

    As an aside, I tried to use the new Jeopardy game. Egad! Its bots are even worse!
  • KeHeKeHe Posts: 1Registered User, Facebook Connect User Not a Title, but a Star
    I LOVE the idea of the solo challenges but agree 100% that the games are skewed, especially the “hard” ones! The computer always seems to get the high scoring letter and I get all vowels and one lousy consonant. So it’s not really a game of skill against the computer but rather a game of luck, which is not usually in my favor.
  • kdtipakdtipa Posts: 8Registered User, Facebook Connect User Loose Cannon

    I'm just checking in to say that I still hate the solo challenge. I don't know why I keep playing it... maybe to see if they're fixing it. I get that they want you to waste resources so you might buy coins, but they still organized it wrong to make me spend money in their app.

    The hindsight powerup should just be a thing you can do whenever you want. I rarely use them, and have something like 90 of them saved up. I will never spend coins to get more of them.

    The solo challenge should be a way to practice for fun... play as much as you want (no stupid waiting period), and the app will give hints (if you want them) about words to help teach you things for the game to help players get better. They don't even need to give you power ups as prizes for winning those solo challenge games. The badge at the end is fun. Just stop trying to make me use the power ups on a bot-opponent.

    If they want me to spend money on their game, they'll need to offer something better. It would be pretty awesome if you could play with up to four people in the game for example (like playing the real board game). I'd pay the one time fee to unlock that feature for example.

    Anyway... the solo mode annoys me and I usually end up cursing at the computer player.

  • wwegekers877wwegekers877 Posts: 719Registered User, Facebook Connect User Party Starter

    @kdtipa solo challenge use the tool scrabulizer best tool aeround these to play against computer bots

  • wobster109wobster109 Posts: 1Registered User, Facebook Connect User Not a Title, but a Star

    Normally I'm skeptical of claims like this, but I agree with you. The bot never plays like that in practice mode. It averages about 17 points per turn in practice mode, but in solo challenge it's about 30, even in the "very easy" levels. It is definitely a different, smarter bot. I suspect that the bot's internal settings are set to "hard" or "very hard" on every stage.

  • wwegekers877wwegekers877 Posts: 719Registered User, Facebook Connect User Party Starter

    wobster109 try scabulizer you never lose

  • kdtipakdtipa Posts: 8Registered User, Facebook Connect User Loose Cannon

    @wwegekers877 said:
    @kdtipa solo challenge use the tool scrabulizer best tool aeround these to play against computer bots

    I don't want to use a tool. Then I'm letting a computer play against another computer. That's not fun for me. What I want is just a distraction that is fun. But when in three moves the computer is ahead of me 111 to 56, I question the balance of the game. I'm not interested in using my power ups against a computer either. Those are for playing against people.

    I've taken to resigning the moment the computer is beating me by more than a few points. I'm not interested in wasting my time on something that isn't fun. I really hope the developers read these things. If they want me to spend money... they need to make the game better.

  • wwegekers877wwegekers877 Posts: 719Registered User, Facebook Connect User Party Starter

    yet nobody could beat watson!

  • luvmyrorysluvmyrorys Posts: 1Registered User, Facebook Connect User Not a Title, but a Star
    Yesterday the computer played the word “je” during solo challenge. This is not a word. The computer played and scored (triple word score) on this. I’m done with solo challenge. Complete cheat by the computer. Not happy.
  • linkshighlightslinkshighlights Posts: 1,509Registered User, Facebook Connect User The Chosen One

    @luvmyrorys This seems to have become a new problem, perhaps with the latest update. They computer is allowed to use the UK English dictionary while you are using the US English dictionary. Definitely not fair and definitely a bug! Hopefully Zynga will have this resolved in the next update.

  • holybeauty19holybeauty19 Posts: 1Registered User, Facebook Connect User Not a Title, but a Star
    @luvmyrorys @linkshighlights What about "Arabizes" ? Not even a word, well at least not in the tens it's used.
  • liamjames12liamjames12 Posts: 2Registered User, Facebook Connect User Not a Title, but a Star
    edited March 9

    Couldn't agree more. In fact I found this string because I ran a Google search to see if anyone else had noticed. Did not require much digging.

    I get that Zynga wants to make a buck, but when it becomes obviously manipulative it is extremely annoying. Zynga, if you are going to program the solo challenge to be unwinnable the first time up to get players to buy/use power ups, don't label it as "easy." It is especially annoying when the easy and medium difficulties play 40+ scoring words for EVERY word, while my tiles are continuously a suspicious combination of letters with very limited play-ability.

    Then there are the absurd amount of ads that hijack your phone after every play. This game used to be fun. I am about to uninstall it.

  • wwegekers877wwegekers877 Posts: 719Registered User, Facebook Connect User Party Starter

    maybe go plaer chess against computer see if you can win!

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